German Train Battalion Steins

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  • #27086 Reply

    Wiking44
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    Hello! I’m the newest member of SCI and I have a few questions that I’ve been interested in getting the answer to. I’ll post more later (once I upload my images to a host site.)

    The first question I have is whether a German Train Battalion would ever use the English word ‘Train’. It seems awfully odd to me that they would since the German word for ‘Train’ is ‘Zug’. There is one listed on E-Bay right now that very much looks period (early 1900s) but it says: “3. Komp Brandenb. Train Battl. No 3 1909-10”

    I contacted the seller, who has 100 percent feedback after 2742 sales and he says he has no idea why they would use an English word, but that he has a few others the same way and is curious to know the answer himself.

    Does anyone know the answer or know of someone I can contact to find out?

    Thanks

  • #27089 Reply

    Ron

    You are confusing a railroad unit, an Eisenbahn regiment, with a supply train battalion responsible for transporting ammunition, forage and food. They used wagons to transport these items.

    • #27090 Reply

      Wiking44
      Participant

      Ah…now I understand. I’m prior-service so I understand the concept of ‘trains’ very well. I do (did) speak decent German and their word for supplies is ‘Nachschub’, although that may be a modern term.

      Thank you for your response. Interesting that they chose an English word to describe it.

    • #27092 Reply

      John Piet

      The on line German-English dictionary I use shows “Train” as a German word with a military connotation: Train {m} [milit√§risches Transport- und Nachschubwesen]
      John

    • #27093 Reply

      Ron

      Wiking44,

      The word is from the Latin trahere (pull or draw) to the Old French train to Middle English train.

  • #27094 Reply

    Ron

    Wiking44,

    Reservist steins is a popular collector category. A special knowledge is required to determine if they are original and what the proper value is. There are a lot of reservist books available. Can you post the ebay listing number?

    • #27095 Reply

      John Piet

      Ron,
      This is probably the eBay auction he is referring to:

      eBay auction

      This is the same stein that did not sell for $150 previously in one of Fox’s auctions:

      Fox auction

      If he keeps it on eBay long enough, he may do better than with Fox.
      John

  • #27096 Reply

    Wiking44
    Participant

    John is correct. That is the listing I was referring to.

    I’m caught by surprise on the word ‘Train’ being in a translator for German. I spoke it well enough to attend a German Military school back in the 1980s (Heereseinheitlichen Taktische Weiterbildung) and not once did I ever hear the word ‘train’ used to describe any logistical capability. Likely because it had fallen out of use. I do appreciate your insight.

    I have a stein I’d like you guys to look at but haven’t had time to load the pics on a hosting site.

    • #27097 Reply

      John Piet

      You have to remember that these regimental steins are over a hundred years old and languages can change a lot over that period of time.

      A quick and easy way to upload pictures is imgur.com. It is free and you do not have to sign up for it. Once the picture is uploaded, use the “Direct Link (email & IM)” link for posting.
      John

  • #27098 Reply

    Wiking44
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