Help identifying a few steins

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  • #27916 Reply

    Arthur

    Hi folks, found this website through Google and I’m hoping someone can help. I have these two steins and don’t know a thing about them. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

    First stein:
    1/2 L, has a letter of appraisal from James G. McCollam that was apparently received back in 1991. Appraisal states it’s a Mettlach Stein #1796 and is vintage (“Late 1800’s”). Here are some pictures:

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    [IMG]http://i1078.photobucket.com/albums/w491/AFRICH1941/IMG_20151204_102125_zpsss4pg5ie.jpg[/IMG]
    [IMG]http://i1078.photobucket.com/albums/w491/AFRICH1941/IMG_20151204_102140_zpsaxfja9os.jpg[/IMG]
    [IMG]http://i1078.photobucket.com/albums/w491/AFRICH1941/IMG_20151204_102154_zpsqisusbr8.jpg[/IMG]
    [IMG]http://i1078.photobucket.com/albums/w491/AFRICH1941/IMG_20151204_102212_zpsnnnbtij3.jpg[/IMG]

    The name carved in by the bottom of the handle (I believe) is Warth, or C Warth.

    The second stein is 1L. I couldn’t find an artist’s name on it.

    [IMG]http://i1078.photobucket.com/albums/w491/AFRICH1941/IMG_20151204_101819_zpsafy28k8j.jpg[/IMG]
    [IMG]http://i1078.photobucket.com/albums/w491/AFRICH1941/IMG_20151204_101835_zpswfyx6bv4.jpg[/IMG]
    [IMG]http://i1078.photobucket.com/albums/w491/AFRICH1941/IMG_20151204_101849_zps0cvrciau.jpg[/IMG]
    [IMG]http://i1078.photobucket.com/albums/w491/AFRICH1941/IMG_20151204_101903_zpsdzmbnmjx.jpg[/IMG]
    [IMG]http://i1078.photobucket.com/albums/w491/AFRICH1941/IMG_20151204_101927_zpsq38mis9h.jpg[/IMG]

    Not sure if these are rare, or common, or somewhere between. Thanks in advance for any help, it’s much appreciated.

    Arthur

  • #27917 Reply

    Arthur

    Hmm… sorry about the links. Not sure how to post images here, I guess.

  • #27919 Reply

    Bill G
    Participant

    Arthur, I was only able to see one photo of each stein. The first is certainly Mettlach #1796, and was designed by Christian Warth. That thumblift if very interesting. The other is a relief not made by Mettlach. See if there is a mold number either on the bottom or around the back of the stein.

  • #27920 Reply

    Bill G
    Participant

    I was able to copy and paste to see more of the second stein: It’s produced by the Reinhold Merkelbach factory, #1206. Both are between the rare/common. In terms of values, the Mettlach at mint condition would be $300-400, the relief $60-80.

  • #27921 Reply

    Arthur

    Thank you very much, Bill. Would you have any guesses as to the date of issue for the relief? Also, what is a relief?

    Arthur

  • #27922 Reply

    Bill G
    Participant

    Arthur, your Merkelbach stein was made around 1900 give or take a few years. “Relief” refers to the raised texture on the outside of the stein. Notice the difference with your Mettlach, which is called “etched.” Another common type is smooth with a decal transfer. Mettlach’s version of that is called “print under glaze” or “PUG.” I hope that you keep your steins rather than try to sell them. You have a great beginning for a collection.

  • #27925 Reply

    Arthur

    Thanks again for your help, Bill. I very much appreciate it.

    I’m a collector at heart but I don’t think my wallet or schedule could handle taking on a whole new collecting avenue. I’d much rather find a good home for these where they’ll be appreciated the way they should.

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