The first one who knows, could be German or Japanese. My advice though is not to buy steins like this, the quality is so rock bottom that if you continue to collect steins you will be sorry you purchased it. The second one is more like it, even though it’s missing it’s lid. It’s a German relief stein of decent quality, look’s like about 1.5 liters. Don’t know the manufacturer, I don’t recognize the handle and it’s not in TBSL.
Thanks Randy for advising this novice collector. I already picked up some wrong ( Japanese) steins as I did not look carefully. But learning along the way. Now I am experienced to detect a Japanese stein.