Help w/Identifying steins

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  • #40215 Reply

    Scott

    Hi,
    I came into a few steins and I’m hoping the experts on this board can provide some insight to them.
    I know the Miners stein is a Gerzit, but haven’t been able to find much information about it. The King Gambrinus stein doesn’t have any markings I can make out so I’m not sure if it’s original or a replica. The larger one (numbered 243 8 on the bottom) has a German inscription on the lid, I’m guessing it was for a Silver Wedding Anniversary, dated 21.6.1902. Do you think it was made/given in 1902 to celebrate the anniversary or in 1927? The dancing people are only marked “Made in Germany” and a “G.K.” near the handle.

    I would appreciate any information you can provide as well as what they might be worth.

    I’ve tried to add the photos to my Google Photos, but not sure if it works. Please let me know if the pics are not available.
    https://photos.app.goo.gl/ckz9HNSgVfzaGrF58

    Thanks,
    Scott

  • #40216 Reply

    Walt
    Keymaster

    The first stein (tavern scene) was apparently made in 1902 to celebrate wedding anniversary. The second (miner) is modern, and the most appealing thing about it is the lid. The third and fourth steins are both old, circa 1890-1900,and both have modest appeal to collectors. The first one is more attractive, the second has the GK signature which will attract some collectors. Retail value is likely #1-$25-$35, #2-$10, #3-$25, #4-$15-$20.

    • #40494 Reply

      Scott

      Walt/John,
      Thanks for the information. Appreciate the beerstein.net link – very helpful. Do you think the inscription on the lid hurts the overall value, or does it give it more authenticity?

      For the King Gambrinus, what indicates the age? Any idea of the maker?

      On the “Dancing Couple”, any idea on that G.K stands for – is it the designer/maker/etc?
      Thanks!

    • #40511 Reply

      Walt
      Keymaster

      There are some amateurish pewter engravings perhaps done with a Dremel which detract from an otherwise attractive stein, but by and large the engraving on a lid does not affect value one way or the other. Personally, I like the personalization which often sheds light on the meaning of the stein to the original owner.

      Regarding GK – some things remain a mystery 120+ years later. See
      http://www.steinmarks.co.uk/pages/pv.asp?p=stein485

      Years ago I asked a knowledgeable collector how to tell if a stein was old or not. His answer was quite disappointing—”You just look at it.” Over the years as I gained knowledge, his statement has become much more sensible to me. What I mean by that is that I no longer have to look for specific clues, the answer is apparent. The style, particularly the coloration of the King Gambrinus stein is not the sort of things being produced today. No company today would produce a stein that does not show their corporate identity on the base. The base and the body of the stein both show marks accumulated over years of being both used and passed from owner to owner. The pewter of the lid is nicely patinated.

      I hope this helps.

  • #40225 Reply

    John Piet

    The first stein appears to be Marzi & Remy #243.

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