Identification of 2 Very Old Steins

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  • #38653 Reply

    Mary

    Can you possibly identify the two steins below? One has stylized script initials (looks like Th.F) and the date 1880 on the metal lid and seems to be of pottery or a ceramic carved by hand to look like tree bark in a khaki beige. The other also looks like pottery on the outside and resembles a round leather futbol (football) or an old soccer ball. It is varying shades of brown. If anyone can identify them or has any information I would be so grateful. I am not sure if these links will work, but I will give them a try. Thank you for looking.
    1880 Stein
    https://photos.google.com/search/_tra_/photo/AF1QipMxfSCpLc1sWVwvUxy9Mka4LFKH7AlY5GoZhZW3
    https://photos.google.com/search/_tra_/photo/AF1QipORPcbgAglTQ1ry84qkqVuZEEek1mR4WDthUvAL
    https://photos.google.com/search/_tra_/photo/AF1QipOZ5MdCUp0ujtsPvMnqzPYf_xbNm9slMvyIILun
    https://photos.google.com/search/_tra_/photo/AF1QipMhhaLs0aI6c2_Iwo_MOBPXakxsbofMBb2pYN6X

    Ball Stein – It Says Germany 1774 on the bottom
    https://photos.google.com/search/_tra_/photo/AF1QipMW-3d8Y7_Wb-Bs7zgiIKUXuDKV4EncIWXgGOIM
    https://photos.google.com/search/_tra_/photo/AF1QipOhRDzg3P7l4ugeB2cxqvo24sYi_-e-1D4szY_lhttps://photos.google.com/search/_tra_/photo/AF1QipNakMtXr1jKaxAEttgXAHPTxMMUK0pB7tFbLjMK

  • #38655 Reply

    Ron

    Mary,

    Your links do not work.

  • #38657 Reply

    Mary

    Sorry about that. When I click on them on this end, they go right to the pictures. I’ll try to figure this out. Thank you for getting back to me.

  • #38658 Reply

    Walter Vogdes

    I suspect you have to be logged in to view the photos. Can you make them publicly visible?

  • #38660 Reply

    Mary

    Do I have to pay a membership to be able to log in? I also tried going on Facebook, but I don’t think I was able to load the photos there either.
    Thank you.
    Mary

  • #38661 Reply

    Ron

    MMary,

    Walt is referring to where you store your photos. You have access to them, but we don’t. If you can’t give us public access, we can’t view them. Facebook won’t help if we aren’t members. I am not on FAcebook and don’t intend to be.

  • #38662 Reply

    Mary

    Oh, okay. I had them on Google photos, but I guess I can’t get it work. Stein Collector’s Intl is on Facebook, so I posted the pics there. Not sure if I will get a response, but will try to load them here again at some point. Thank you for taking the time to respond. I do appreciate it.
    Mary

  • #38664 Reply

    Mary
    • #38666 Reply

      Ron

      Mary,

      The soccer ball stein can be found in The Beer Stein Library listed in the Reading section of this site. Just look for mold 1774 in the Reinnhold Hanke catalog. I don’t think the price ranges are being kept up to date. They were originally meant to reflect the price ranges for steins in mint condition in stein auctions. About 1/3 of the price would have gone to the auction company, so a private sale or a sale on ebay would be at the lower end or less.

      If the letter on the other stein is on the lid, it will not help identify the stein. The date 1880 could have been put on the lid at any time, but it does appear to be in keeping with the looks of the stein.

  • #38665 Reply

    Walter Vogdes

    Yes, that link works, thank you.

    Where are the letters on the first stein?

    The second stein seems to have been made by the firm of Reinhold Hanke in the Westerwald.

    Are you planning to sell the steins?

  • #38667 Reply

    Mary

    Dear Ron and Walter,

    You are both terrific! Thank you so much for the great information. I am planning to sell them, but I was hoping to find out what they are worth first, before I put them on eBay or elsewhere. My research took my nowhere until now.

    Walter, the letters on the stein that looks like tree bark or a log, are “Th.F.” (probably Thomas something). Nothing is written on the bottom. The soccer ball has writing on the bottom which says, “Germany 1774” and a small # “13” and nothing written anywhere else that I can see.

    Thank you, again –
    Mary

  • #38668 Reply

    Mary

    Just another little note: I added a photo of the lid on the tree bark stein, which shows the date and the initials. I meant to add it originally, but inadvertently added the one with the open lid.

    I read about the soccer ball in the stein library, as you suggested. Thank you for that. I did not realize how much great information is on this site. We have a football stein by Gerz Germany and 2 Budman steins. One is the hollow head by Ceramart from 1975 and the other is the 1980’s one. This has been so much fun that my husband is now starting to covet them. 🙂

    Thank you,
    Mary

    • #38671 Reply

      Ron

      Mary,

      Since the letters are on the pewter lid, I suspect they are from the name of the owner.

  • #38672 Reply

    Mary

    Ron,
    That was my thought, as well. Thank you.

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