J.W.R

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  • #29727 Reply

    Joe
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    Greetings,

    I came across a stein by J.W.R that I want to verify is actually from J.W.R. I searched both on here, as well as TBSL, but could not find the mold number.

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  • #29731 Reply

    Ron

    Joe,

    It has the characteristics of a JWR and indeed 1208 does appear on a list of JWR mold numbers provided to me by Lyn Ayers. Lyn specializes in JWR steins.

  • #29732 Reply

    Joe
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    Ron,

    Thank you for your input. The characteristics of the stein drove me to the conclusion that it was produced by JWR, but with the limited resources I have I could only be “pretty sure”. I presume, like most JWR steins in this style, it is safe to estimate that the manufacturer date would be early 1900s. Would dating it prior to WWI be accurate? I enjoy putting up an estimated date when displaying my steins.

    Lastly, I think I will submit it to TBSL, so thank you once again for your input.

    Very respectfully,
    Joe

    • #29733 Reply

      Ron

      Joe,

      When people say circa 1900, it is a general time period plus or minus 20 years. We know WWI began in 1914 and that eliminated most of Germany’s export trade. It also would have disrupted some of their domestic trade too. After the Great War, the over throw of the monarchy, internal turmoil and hyper-inflation reduced production to the bare necessities. Take the case of the firm of Albert Jacob Thewalt. They were founded in 1893 but did not begin production until 1894. Stein production began when Wilhelm Kamp joined the firm in 1897. Kamp left the firm when WWI started and AJT did not produce steins until after WWII. Kamp did the first 817 molds, or about 50 per year. Mold 1 could have been produced in 1897 or any year thereafter depending on its popularity. Mold 700 was probably made around 1910, so production would be 1910-1914.-There may have been some steins produced during WWI (a big manufacture like V&B would have been the exception), but the market would have been virtually gone in the 1920s, And don’t forget we had prohibition from 1920-1933, so there wouldn’t have been much of a market then. AJT did start reproducing some of the old molds in the modern era.

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