Original or Spray Painted??

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  • #39557 Reply

    Rob

    I came across this German Stein today. I have never seen one like this, it looked liked it had been spray painted with copper spray paint! I asked the antique dealer if it was painted or was it original. Answer was Original and Old. I have no reason to believe he wasn’t telling me the truth and is a reputable seller. Any body seen one like this and any knowledge behind the copper look? I didn’t buy it, but wondering if I should have. These are all the pictures that I took. Thanks in advance for the information.

    Cooper Beer Stein
    Cooper Stein side view

    Copper Stein bottom

  • #39558 Reply

    Rob

    One more photo of the inside lid.
    Inside Lid

  • #39559 Reply

    Ron

    Rob,

    This is Reinhold Hanke mold 1139. This is what The Beer Stein Library has to say about it:

    “Central image taken from a painting by Friedrich Prölß (1855-1934).

    “Geh’ setz di her.” (Come sit here.)
    “Ein froher Gast ist Niemands Last.” (A happy guest is no one’s burden.)

    A variation of this stein is known to exist with copper plating applied by L.Thannemann & Cie, a Munich finishing shop and distributor.”

  • #39565 Reply

    Rob

    Ron, thanks for the information and education. I had no idea this would’ve been talked about in the Beer Stein Library in one of the manufacturer catalogs. I looked it up and you nailed it (once again). The more and more I collect, the more I realize how much I don’t know. Thanks again.

    • #39571 Reply

      Ron

      Rob,

      Go to steveonsteins and read his article “Copper Clad”, AKA: “Bronzed” Beer Steins.There is more to learn. You passed on a good one, but so would I before reading this article.

  • #39576 Reply

    Rob

    Ron, I looked up the article from Steveonsteins. Very interesting read. I am hoping I can still find this seller and make the purchase! Thanks again!!! Rob

    • #39980 Reply

      Ron

      Rob,

      Here is another Reinhold Hanke stein that was copper clad, https://www.ebay.com/itm/Antique-Copper-Over-Porcelain-German-Beer-Stein/223969594185?hash=item3425a0cb49:g:0OYAAOSwmCReeR49. It is a little pricey though.

    • #39981 Reply

      Ken S

      I am guessing unless someone knows for sure how this copper was applied, but perhaps it was a thin foil, almost like gold leaf, that was used over the existing underlying image. I bet it is very durable though, wondering if it was baked on afterwards to kind of fuse it all together. More questions than answers likely.

    • #39982 Reply

      Ron

      Ken,

      Read the article on copper clad steins on steveonsteins.com.

    • #39983 Reply

      Ken S

      Thx Ron. I did. It was not clear how the ceramic material is prepared in order to electroplate the outside as there is no base metal (except for the lid of course). Also, how do you search his site? I see no search option. I just typed in steve on steins copper clad. I didn’t see a menu either.

    • #39984 Reply

      Ron

      Ken,

      Steve’s menu of articles is on the right hand side of the page. It is organized in broad categories. I use Google Chrome which has a search option. Click on the three dots in the upper right and click on Find. Type in the search term “Copper Clad” and it should highlight the article for you.

      I admit the article is a little confusing, I don’t know how you can electroplate ceramic. Try contacting Ron Fox.

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