Stein ID

This topic contains 11 replies, has 1 voice, and was last updated by  Francatan 2 weeks, 5 days ago.

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  • #43587 Reply

    Karl

    Hey,
    My name is Karl! I recently took an interest into beer steins after finding one in a charity shop and have struggled to identify it! I was wondering if you’d be able to help me.
    I’ve attached some pictures for your consideration.

    https://ibb.co/ZL7WD97
    https://ibb.co/16qvBFS
    https://ibb.co/gTqL2fW
    https://ibb.co/RHKTn41

    The bottom just has “GERMANY” and “1” inset on the bottom with potential worn text that I can’t distinguish.
    The lid also says “D.R.G.M” and “73/1” I hope this helps.

  • #43617 Reply

    RON

    Karl,

    The shiny pewter lid indicates it is quite new. Since it says Germany on the bottom, it is post-reunification. My guess would be it was made by King Werk, but I did not see it in their catalog. It is a typical relief pottery stein showing a Tyrolean couple doing the Schuhplattler. The marking on the lid is a little more puzzling as it indicates an older date, see https://www.toledo-bend.com/VCL/info_2/drgm.html. The stein and lid do look a lot newer than 1952. It does not have much value to a collector.

  • #43620 Reply

    Karl

    Thanks, Ron!
    I didn’t think it was too much I was more intrigued than anything! It’s kick-started a hobby that’s for sure!

    • #43624 Reply

      RON

      Karl,

      Did you join SCI yet? If not, then make that your next purchase.

    • #43763 Reply

      Karl

      Don’t worry, that’s definitely my next course of action!

  • #43728 Reply

    Francatan

    RON,
    this is a really interesting news that you gave to all stein collectors that didn’t know it, if a German stein says on the bottom Germany it is post-reunification.
    Germany reunification was on October 3 1990, so 30 years ago.
    I tried to make a search on internet, but I haven’t found any answer about that.
    Do you have any source that can confirm it?
    It would be a very helpful evidence to give a right value to all the manufacturer unknown steins.
    Thank you

    • #43781 Reply

      Ron

      Fran,

      As John points out, reunification allowed the country to be one nation with one name. Western, West and/or W could be dropped. The country name is not always a reliable indicator. There have been instances when Germany appeared during the period of separation. Since the pewter was still shiny, I only used it to give an indication of the earliest date it could have been made. I am still puzzled by the pewter marking.

  • #43774 Reply

    John Piet

    Francatan, After WWII steins were marked W. Germany. Before then, and after reunification, steins were just marked Germany. The mark of just Germany just excludes it from the time Germany was divided after WWII.

  • #43790 Reply

    Francatan

    John & Ron,
    thank you both. Next time I dusty off all my steins, I’ll check on the bottom if they are marked W Germany or Germany. It’s sure that if a few of them are marked just Germany, they were issued after reunification, not before WWII. Unfortunately I don’t have very old steins in my collection.

    • #43797 Reply

      Ron

      Fran,

      Don’t forget that they only had to be marked if they were expected to be exported out of the country. Reservist steins were intended for the German reservist and wouldn’t be marked. If a reservist stein says Made in Germany, it is most likely a reproduction.

  • #43799 Reply

    Karl

    So it’s not King Werk! I emailed them directly and they were unsure as well and have pointed me in a few directions for now!

  • #43859 Reply

    Francatan

    Ron,
    despite I don’t collect reservist stein (even if I like that), you gave me another very important news that I didn’t know.
    Thank you again.

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