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Depending on how well received a particular mould was it could have generated thousands of steins.
The glass lid is probably uncommon, but not really rare. In my limited time looking at non-military steins I’ve seen ones like this before. Sometimes you’ll find colored glass and those look very nice in my opinion.
Without any kind of maker’s mark it would be difficult to determine manufacturer without some luck and extensive research, but my uneducated guess is that it is indeed German.
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I have a hard time with ‘value’ questions. The bottom line is that no matter what you collect, the value is what people are willing to pay for it. I collect military steins. Specifically from the period 1914 – 1945. Both Kirsner’s auction site and Fox auctions have sold steins for way more than I’m willing to pay…but obviously someone is so if you go to the right place you can get more for your item.
In my case I’m patient and I’m able to find the items for my collection for half of what they go for on those auction sites. I use Kirsner’s old books to determine ‘relative’ value. In other words, if he said one was worth $300 and the other was worth $100 back in 1995 then I keep that in mind when looking.
Personally, if I were selling, I’d go Kirsner or Fox simply because they sell steins at a premium price and have a good reputation with collectors. But I won’t buy there unless I hit the lottery. lol
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Thanks Lyn…my problem with the lid is that it is very shiny for an 80-year-old stein. I agree that the thumb lift is period…but I would think the lid would have more oxidation.
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Between this and the 2016 Convention issue I think I’m going to go have a beer.
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Ron:
Thanks. I’m certain my stein is 1/2 liter. I didn’t see the catalog on our site showing a 236H, but what you says makes sense. Agree with your assessment that this was a gift from ‘The Colonel’ to his subordinate Vikari. Wish I could get a better fix on the date, but thanks.
Steve:
Thanks. 🙂
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Yes, there is the backpack, a short-sword (could be bayonet but it’s got a guard on the handle), the crossed rifles, the shovel, the anchor, and an axe. 🙂
Pretty cool. Again I thank you for taking the time to share and help teach me.
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I looked more closely and it’s actually a W & B… which is Wieseler & Beeri
“Süddeutsche Glasmanufaktur”
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Great information Ron. I knew it wasn’t a reservist stein. Wasn’t sure what to call it. Presentation stein perhaps? Thank you so much for taking the time to look at this and provide me your valuable insight. It does look like the paint was touched up, but when I check it with a pin as you suggest it does not penetrate. In fact, it’s very clear that the glaze is covering all of the paint. Have you seen other steins with ‘sloppy’ lines like this before?
I have looked a little on SteinMarks but as you know there is a lot of information there to go through…and I don’t even know where to start because the mark is all but indecipherable.
Here are some pictures of the handle.
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John is correct. That is the listing I was referring to.
I’m caught by surprise on the word ‘Train’ being in a translator for German. I spoke it well enough to attend a German Military school back in the 1980s (Heereseinheitlichen Taktische Weiterbildung) and not once did I ever hear the word ‘train’ used to describe any logistical capability. Likely because it had fallen out of use. I do appreciate your insight.
I have a stein I’d like you guys to look at but haven’t had time to load the pics on a hosting site.
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Thanks Ron. I have tried toothpicks, etc to hold it, but it just seems to stretch the tin instead of tightening it. Since these are for visitors to drink out of I suppose a little epoxy might do the trick. I don’t plan on re-selling these.
Appreciate the tip!
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Thank you Richard!
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Ah…now I understand. I’m prior-service so I understand the concept of ‘trains’ very well. I do (did) speak decent German and their word for supplies is ‘Nachschub’, although that may be a modern term.
Thank you for your response. Interesting that they chose an English word to describe it.
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