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From: Ron
Remote Name: 165.121.226.219
Date: 08/05/2003
Time: 06:10:56 PM
Maryjane,
I'm not sure if The Beer Stein Library identified it by a manufacturer's mark. For unmarked steins, it would be a lot easier if it is listed as being attributed to a manufacturer and then listing the reasons (lid style, artist initials, handle, listing in the manufacturer's catalog, etc.). Even then, some of the attributions will be wrong.
Most of my Girmscheid steins are marked, but then I do prefer marked steins so that there is no doubt. One of my marked steins is 931. The same stein and mold number are listed in a Rosskopf und Gerz book as being made by that firm. I don't know if that particular stein had the RuG mark or appeared in a Rosskopf und Gerz catalog. The author has not responded to my questions. It could be that Girmscheid bought that mold from either Rosskopf und Gerz or from Eckhardt & Engler, who supposedly bought the Rosskopf und Gerz steins. A lot of steins E&E did buy have the same Rosskopf und Gerz mold number. While E&E may have commonly marked their steins, I am not sure how common it was for Rosskopf und Gerz to mark their steins. I don't recall ever seeing a stein marked RuG or being so listed in an auction catalog. The current Gary Kirsner catalog has an unmarked character stein that is stated as being by Rosskopf und Gerz, but how can you tell for sure if both firms used the same mold number? It is much better to say "attributed" since the manufacturer could be either (of course the basis for attribution, I presume apparant age in this instance, should also be stated). This would assure that all parties are fully informed.
Ron