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2 unmarked steins... help identify please?

From: Gies
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Hello,

I have 2 steins that looks old...especially the white one. One is a apostelstein, but is it real or "tourist" the other loos VERY old, with a extreem thin lid with a repair. I don`t even know if it is pewter. The surface is rather rough. Hope one of you can tell me more even if the steins are unmarked.

The pictures are here: http://users.telenet.be/tinymichielsen/unmarked.htm