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From: Michael
Remote Name: 216.244.49.92
Date: 09/17/2008
Time: 12:22:09 AM
Hi Ron and Walt, Thanks for your posts <p>Yes, you are correct Walt, there is no lithophane in these steins. <p>I have found another lithophane stein with similar but not identical decoration. <p>Again, it's well documented in Europe this decoration pattern Meissen copied from the Chinese in the mid 18th century and called it "immortelle". <p>Subsequently, it has been copied by numerous companies and is still being made today by Royal Coppenhagen and known as "blue-fluted". I have yet to find an example of Chinese export that pre-dates the Meissen. <p>Since the decoration can't be solely used to determine the age, I'm hoping someone here may be able to date these by the attributes of a flat unglazed base with circumfrential ridges, kiln grit embedded at the edge of the base, and the style of the pewter mount. <p>While I do know a little about antique ceramics, I know less about antique steins and appreciate your help. Cheers, Michael