Gus A Soulas Rathskeller stein

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  • #43956 Reply

    asteenbeeke
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    I’m quite familiar with Charles W Soulas steins advertising the Rathskeller in Philadelphia which was opened in the late 1800’s. However, I have a stein that says, “Imported Beer Gus A Soulas, Original Rathskeller 22-26 S 5th Street, Phila”. I tried to research it and could not find anything about Gus Soulas owning a Rathskeller there. I did find a listing for a Gustave Soulas being born in Philadelphia in 1926, so maybe this was a grandson? Anyone here have any information on it?

  • #43965 Reply

    Ron

    The 01/04/1895 Philadelphia Times article states C. H. Reiser operated a popular restaurant at that location. Perhaps he got his beer from Soulas or had another connection to him. They both probably belonged to the German-American Society.

  • #43976 Reply

    asteenbeeke
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    Thanks, Ron. I did find one other reference to Gus Soulas associated with the Rathskeller where he didn’t want to sing in a german chorus in 1915. From what you said, I think that maybe Gus was Charles’ son and was in charge of selling their beers outside of the Rathskeller and he paired it with advertising for the Rathskeller on the stein to other restaurants. Clever!

  • #55473 Reply

    Dane Butler

    asteenbeeke & Ron… I acquired the same exact Stein today. It’s so old and has the number 16 under the Stein of which I haven’t any idea what “16” means? Well,if this comment reaches you all. asteenbeeke, that means you’re not alone. LOL!

    • #55479 Reply

      Ron

      Dane,

      If the bottom of your stein has two concentric circles along with the number 16, it was probably made by Edwin Bennett Pottery of Baltimore. He usually marked his wares, but not his beer steins as he did not drink. See my article in the December 2017 Prosit on the Bennett Brothers and American Pottery. The number indicates the number of ounces the mug held. The number 16 would be for 16 ounces.

  • #57556 Reply

    Jim Coughlin

    Hi, I saw one of those steins today and was thinking of buying it. It was $110. I thought that was a little steep. Since you guys are familiar, is that fair? It has a dented lid but no chips or cracks.

  • #57560 Reply

    John Piet

    Jim,
    if the stein fits into your collection, or you really like it and feel you really want it to keep, and not resell for profit, then go ahead and buy it. If you are looking for a bargain to resell, then you need to do some research on the stein’s sale history.

    • #57568 Reply

      Jim Coughlin

      Hi John, thanks for the response. I was looking at it as a personal collector piece. I’m not a “stein guy” but I am a brewery/beer collector. I also live in Philly so it has a local connection as well. I just don’t want to get taken to the cleaners n the price. Thanks again for the input.

      Jim

  • #57574 Reply

    Walt
    Keymaster

    Jim, it’s hard to judge value without knowing the extent of the pewter damage. If it’s a minor dent, then the asking price is probably at the upper limit of “fair.” A substantial dent will make it less appealing to other collectors, so $110 would likely be high. Being from Philly and interested in breweries increases it’s appeal to you. Have you tried to negotiate a better price? Most sellers expect to haggle.

  • #57587 Reply

    Jim Coughlin

    Hi Walt. I didn’t try to negotiate a price when I was physically in the store looking at it. I think I’m going to call them and see if they’d take a lower offer (maybe $90) with a mention of the dented lid. Nothing ventured, nothing gained.

  • #57594 Reply

    Walt
    Keymaster

    Go Phillies! Fjy Eagles, fly.

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