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Mark StevensonSteinTalk-
Hello I am Mark in Northern California. I was given a large beer stein by my grandmother. She said it was from my great grandfather, whom I estimate to have become an adult around 1880. My grandmother was born in 1903. She was from northern Europe and the generations in my family are very stretched out because of WWII.
I do not participate in forums like this very often, but I would like to get an understanding of what it is and when it was made. Also, what is its value? I got burned out on FB, so this seems the best way to contact someone. I would be glad to talk to the NorCal Chapter, but I can’t find an email address.
I would very much appreciate it if someone would contact me at the email address enclosed. I will send pictures and we can talk.
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Mark, you didn’t enclose your email address.
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RonBill,
The problem is they are required to give an e-mail address in order to post to SteinTalk, but they fail to read or understand that it “will not be published.” Another recent poster had the same problem with assuming the e-mail would appear in her post. Maybe the wording could be revised to make it clearer, but we don’t want to encourage private conversations as we want the questions and answers to be available to all of us.
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Mark, did you click on the link in the navigation bar for Chapters? If you scroll down on that page you will see that the Golden Gate Zecher cover Northern California, and a link is provided to reach the chapter contact.
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Mark StevensonHello Everybody,
Don’t read too much into this email address. It’s a joke. The address is dropout.tunein.turnon@gmail.com.
I did fill in a drop-down with my email address. This forum seems very cool, but everyone is concerned about having email addresses floating around.
This stein is old and its huge. I know it is 3-4 liters, maybe more. From the web, it seems to me that the Germans made most of the steins. It’s an heirloom at this point. I am surprised that it has survived intact.
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Mark StevensonHello Everybody-
Please tell me how to post photos and I will do it. Based on the web, it looks like a German Mettlach. But, it is probably from Herning Denmark. It is large and elaborate. The photos on the web do not show any Danish steins that are this elaborate. Herning is close to the German border.
It is marked 133 and was probably made as a trophy. I think my dates are correct.
thanks
Mark s
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RonMark,
If you click on About SteinTalk it will give you some hints on posting photos.
Duemler & Breiden has a mold 133 which is a 3.5 L relief pouring pitcher. The scene is of a Buffalo and Bear Hunt. It does not look like a Mettlach. What makes you think is is Danish?
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HowieMark,
Posting images on the forum is easy, but not straight forward. First copy the address or URL of the image. If it is a direct link to the image, i.e. probably a xxxx.jpg at the end of the URL, click on the “img” tag at the top of the posting box and paste the URL in the box provided. If the URL is a link to a web page, most likely ending in xxx.html, then clink on the “link” tag above and paste it in both boxes that come up. The hardest part is getting your image to someplace on the Internet and locating its URL. -
Mark StevensonHello Everybody-
Well first, any hobby or collection that honors beer is a very good pastime.
Ron is correct. Jeff from the forum also helped me and told me to look at Dumler and Breiden. I could not find an exact image, but it is similar to the one below. Mold 133 that I have is not as thin; it is wider in circumference. The one below is Mold 22.
http://www.mysteincollection.com/catalogue/view_item.php?art_ID=6646&lang=en
I thought it might be Danish because my grandmother said it was won by my great grandfather in a shooting contest. My mom and grandmother came to the USA after WWII. I am pretty sure he lived in Herning, maybe Lemvig, DK. She left a note inside the stein. Herning is not very far from the German border. I don’t think so, but I guess it is possible he went to Germany for the contest. But of course, there were 2 wars between Denmark and Germany after 1850, so I am not sure there was much cross-border tourism during that time. I don’t think folks moved around that much either.
Her story seems to match the age of the stein, unless you guys know something that I don’t know. I would like to get your opinion if you think I am incorrect. My grandmother was not dumb, but she was not very educated. I guess it is possible she saw it and just bought it, then told the story.
I had no idea what it was. I want to thank everybody for giving me the answer. It is one of those stories where it was just sitting in a box for decades. I forgot I had it until I opened the box.
Thank You
Mark StevensonI had no idea what I had.
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RonMark,
Mold 22 is the 7.5 L version. Molds 22 and 133 would have been designed in the late 1800s although they could have been produced any year after they were designed. If your stein is blue-grey, it would most likely have been produced prior to 1896. Your lid may contain the initials “PD” which are for Peter Duemler.
The Beer Stein Library lists the value of mold 133 in limited color as $150 to $225 in mint condition. For full color, it is listed at $200 to $300. I like to point out these are typical ranges seen in beer stein auction catalogs. Since the auctioneer gets about 30% commission and the seller normally pays freight to ship to the auction house, you should not expect to get the higher end of the range in a private sale or on ebay. In fact, sales on ebay may be below the low end of the range. Stein prices have been falling in recent years.
I don’t see a post for Jeff, so he must have contacted you directly. By answering directly, this denies other viewers the benefit of that person’s experience and does not advance the objective of SteinTalk – Sharing Information.
If you have an interest in beer steins, you should consider joining SCI as a means to enhance your knowledge before buying steins.
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