Mettlach #1968 variations

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  • #53832 Reply

    Bill G
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    I think I’ve seen in Prosit about a variation on the .25L of VBM #1968, but haven’t been able to find it. Some have storks and some don’t. Now I’d like to know if the storks make a difference in the value. TBSL mentions a variation on base and lids, but not storks on the sides. Anyone remember?

  • #53833 Reply

    Ron

    Bill,

    The Mettlach Book by Gary Kirsner says there are versions with stork and baby, but does not list a variation in price. The master stein is 1949 and TBSL does show the stork and baby on the side. I couldn’t find any articles in Prosit by doing a Find search for “Form 1968” or “Lovers in Vines.”

  • #53835 Reply

    Bill G
    Participant

    Thanks for searching, Ron. Until I can find any other reference I will believe the pedestal base has the storks and normal base doesn’t. No price difference.

  • #53837 Reply

    SCI

    Bill,

    A number of the storks on the side stein versions have come up for auction with no price difference unless it has the Anheuser Busch Inlay Lid.

  • #53840 Reply

    Bill G
    Participant

    Mettlach 1968

  • #53841 Reply

    Bill G
    Participant

    I tried (unsuccessfully) to post a photo that Frank Loevi, creator of The Beer Stein Library sent me. He informed me that “the storks are found on all initial versions of the stein, matching those on the pitcher (#1949), and would appear to have been eliminated from the #1968 design sometime in the early 1890s. Whether or not the same change was made to the pitcher is unknown (at least to me), but I’ve yet to come across one sans storks. Contrary to what you might be led to believe from the existing BSL listing, the steins are more commonly found with storks than without. However, your conclusion that both versions tend to sell in the same general price range is correct.” There’s the rest of the story. I’ll try again to post the photo.

  • #53842 Reply

    Bill G
    Participant

    Mettlach 1968 Another try

    • #53845 Reply

      Ron

      Bill,

      The photo just needs to be opened in another tab.

      I would think that if the smaller versions are with the Master in a set, the owner would want them to match. And if the master always has the two storks, There should be a difference, however slight, in the price.

      It also appears that the type of base has nothing to do with storks or no storks on the accompanying steins.

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